I’ve been on Aweber for over 5 years – pretty much ever since I started blogging.
And while it’s been good to me up until this point, I don’t feel like it’s evolving with the times very well.
I feel like 2016 is going to be the year of marketing automation.
What do I mean by that?
Well for the first time ever, advanced marketing tools that used to only be available in very high end (and expensive) email providers, are now becoming much more affordable.
This along with the fact that people’s attention spans are at an all time low, and it’s harder than ever to get people to open an email – means there’s a big opportunity for people who take their marketing a step further.
What marketing automation allows you to do is to make sure your readers are getting the information they want.
Right now I send out my weekly newsletter to pretty much my whole list.
How much you wanna bet, some people would rather just see my emails about new blog posts?
Or just emails about the video blog?
Or just things about Location Rebel?
Some of the newest email tools are making it incredibly easy to do this (and much more).
Why I Left Aweber
For the last year or two Aweber, just wasn’t doing it for me anymore.
Every time I wanted to do something a little more advanced, it didn’t seem possible without a lot of extra work using APIs and getting a developer involved (or using AW Pro Tools, which I was not impressed by).
But in the end there were three main reasons why I switched from Aweber.
1) How they track contacts
This is probably the biggest complaint you’ll see about Aweber, and it’s amazing to me they haven’t fixed this yet – it would do wonders for their brand loyalty.
When someone signs up to one of your lists, it counts a subscriber. Makes sense.
If that same person signs up to a different list with the same email address. New Subscriber.
If they unsubscribe from one list, and are still on the other. Still two subscribers.
So in some cases I had the same person being counted as 6 different contacts, just because they were on different segments of my list.
This is totally unacceptable in my book, so when I hit a threshold where I was having to pay more money, I got serious about looking elsewhere.
2) Lack of tagging and advanced segmentation
Along with the way they unfairly track contacts, they make it really difficult to segment and move those contacts around.
Most of the new email providers that you see really doing well these days use tags instead.
So instead of the same email address showing 6 times across 6 different lists, there’s just one email, and those different lists or segments are tags.
If someone clicked a link in Aweber, I couldn’t easily then send them different content or segment them differently based on that.
So what happened was I was sending everything to everyone, without giving them good options to tell me what they did want.
I also waited until Aweber rolled out their new campaigns feature before jumping ship. It’s a step in the right direction, but still has a looooong way to go and left me underwhelmed.
3) Clunky Email Editor
Editing emails in Aweber has never been all that user friendly for me. When sending out my newsletter, it seemed to automatically change font sizes and colors on me for no apparent reason.
The system just overall felt a little cumbersome. Every time I sent an email it seemed like I ran into some little bug that made things more difficult than it should be.
I don’t mean for this to be a huge bash Aweber blog post. They do a lot of things right, and have generally served me well for the past 5 years.
I just think that for a company that’s been around as long as them, they should be more on the leading edge of some of this stuff.
ConvertKit Review: Why I Switched To ConvertKit
So, with all of that said, why did I end up switching to ConvertKit?
Believe me, a lot of research and effort went into this.
But it boiled down to a few key reasons (more details on each of these below):
- It has an integration with Rainmaker. I’m moving Location Rebel over to the Rainmaker platform, and I wanted solid integration with them and whatever email provider I chose.
- Tagging System. ConvertKit uses a tag system, and makes it incredibly easy to tag and segment however you want.
- Good looking forms and landing pages. I’m not a technical guy, nor am I designer. And I loved the fact I could easily add custom forms to any post I wanted, with minimal effort and make them look good.
Like this one!
There were a few other reasons, which I’ll highlight below, but those were some of the fundamental ones.
The Migration Process
ConvertKit is a relatively new company, only having been around for a couple years.
Their founder Nathan Barry, is a friend of mine, and I’ve heard him talking about it since before they’d even launched.
I’d been following along with their growth, and while I was reluctant to trust the most important asset of my business to such a new company – but clearly, they finally won me over.
There are pros and cons to working with a small startup in this capacity.
One of the big pros, is even though their team is small, they go out of their way to provide personalized service to their new customers.
If you have a list of a certain size, they will essentially do all of the migration for you.
Matt and I had a phone conversation, and then not only did they help me get my entire Aweber list over quickly, they helped with some form customization on my site to make sure I was happy with the way things were looking.
The whole process took about a week, but admittedly, I’m now working through an overhaul of my emails to take advantage of the new capabilities.
First Impressions of
One of the things I love about ConvertKit is how easy and simple everything is to use.
Sure, as with anything there’s going to be a little bit of a learning curve – but honestly, it isn’t much.
Within 20 minutes of poking around the site I pretty much knew exactly how to do the basics:
- Create a form
- Send a broadcast
- Create an autoresponder (they call them courses)
- Create a new tag
- Add an automation.
The primary menu items of Forms, Courses, Broadcasts, Subscribers, Automations, and Account are incredibly clear.
I’ve been able to easily create the forms I need. And once I understood that I should setup any new tags, and any new automations, before creating the form – everything has been smooth sailing.
The home screen does a decent job of allowing me to quickly view my list growth and conversion numbers on my forms – however I’d like to see more customization here, as the way it’s presented isn’t necessarily my favorite.
Sending my first broadcast was really easy as well.
I will say that some of the customization ability is still a little bit lacking (as far as I can tell), compared to more full featured services.
Without digging into HTML, you can’t seem to customize font, color, width of the email etc. Seems like a pretty weird thing not to include, but could go with their theme of making things as simple as possible – as they are targeting the power blogger or author – not the power internet marketer.
Bottom line on first impression: I made the right choice. Everything is incredibly easy to use in
Tagging and Automation in Practice
Let’s look at those two components for a minute, as that was one of the primary reasons I moved over in the first place.
It’s incredibly easy to add a tag to a new subscriber by way of automation.
Basically for any form I have on a site, when people sign up I can assign automations that make sure people get the content and a tag specific to what they wanted.
So if someone signs up for our free email 6 step email course I can tag them “Location 180 Welcome”.
Once they finish that, I could create an automation that will move them to a sequence that sells Location Rebel and maybe tag it “lrsales1”.
If they don’t buy, I could then have an automation that moves them over to “L180primary” where they just get my broadcasts and newsletters.
It takes less than 10 minutes to setup this functionality.
I can have separate forms that tag people based on where they signed up.
If I have a form on a travel post, the follow up email sequence can be all about travel.
Or if it’s on a post about niche sites, I could give them more content based on that.
So you can see how powerful it is to build out your automation and custom tailor your content to the interests of your readers.
A Few Things that Haven’t Been Perfect
Overall my experience with ConvertKit has been positive and exactly what I’d hoped it would be.
However, there have been a few minor things that I wasn’t anticipating.
1) Segmentation Not Quite as Robust as I Thought
One confession I have to make is I was pretty much already sold on a different email provider, Active Campaign. Active Campaign is built more for marketers and is incredibly robust in what it allows you to do.
However, it doesn’t integrate with Rainmaker – so that became a non-starter.
I spent a significant amount of time with Active Campaign, and there were a few things it does that I expected
For instance say I send 3 emails each with a different link.
But what if I want to send an email only to the people who have clicked all three of those links – as that person is obviously highly engaged.
No can do.
Note: This is a feature that is coming out very shortly, however at the time of this writing it wasn’t yet available.
2) No Test Email on Courses
So this is kind of nit-picky, but it also seems really weird that this isn’t an option.
If you’re creating your autoresponder series of emails, there’s no way you can do a test send of those emails to you.
You can do a test send in a broadcast, but not in a “course”.
So they only way to test a course email to ensure the formatting is correct is by copying it into a new broadcast and sending the test from there.
3) Emails Not Very Customizable Out of the Box
I mentioned this earlier. One thing I liked about Active Campaign was just how customizable all the emails were – and they had tons of templates that could allow you to do just about anything you wanted.
When sending emails from
This isn’t necessarily a huge deal, as I wouldn’t do anything dramatically different from the way it has things setup – but I’d like the option to easily make minor tweaks from within the visual editor.
Here’s the thing about all three of these minor complaints: they come with the territory of working with a relatively new company.
I knew this going in, and I’m also confident that over the coming months and years – all of this will be addressed.
A nice benefit of a small company too is that I know I’ll get a response, and that feedback I have will be heard by people who actually have the power to make a change.
Anytime I’m logged in there’s also a handy little help bubble, with a full string of my conversations with their team. Any question I ask usually gets an answer within a couple hours – and I really appreciate knowing I can easily get ahold of someone.
ConvertKit Right For?
Reading this you may be still asking yourself “is this right for me?”
Let me see if I can answer that.
I look at ConvertKit as kind of an intermediary between the Awebers and Mailchimps of the world and some of the more expensive solutions like Infusionsoft or Active Campaign.
I think the perfect market for for
So if you’re debating between this, Aweber, or Mailchimp.
It’s an absolute no brainer: go with ConvertKit. You won’t regret it. The only downside I can think of compared to those is that because it’s a new company there aren’t as many integrations with various services online – but for the most part this really shouldn’t be an issue.
If you consider yourself less of a blogger and more of a marketer, then you might look into Active Campaign, as it’s funnel capabilities and automation features are much more robust.
While Active Campaign isn’t difficult to use, it can be very easy to get overwhelmed. So I don’t necessarily recommend this for people just starting out.
If you don’t already have an email list, here’s the price comparison for 1,000 users.
- Aweber: $19/month
- MailChimp: $15/month ($10/month under 500 subscribers)
- Active Campaign: $17/month ($9/month under 500 subscribers). This is also for their basic plan. The plan I recommend and was looking at starts at $49/month.
So yes, ConvertKit is a little bit more money if you’re just starting out, but I promise you it’s money well spent.
For what it’s worth, for the level I’m at, Aweber was charging me $216/month and
Active Campaign was $338.
So as your list grows
Also notice I don’t really mention Infusionsoft here, as that’s more of an all-encompassing CRM and marketing system. The ones I looked at are just email marketing providers.
I honestly believe
It’s combination of ease along with more powerful marketing features, and quick growth is a really good combination.
I’m excited to see them address some of the issues I brought up earlier, but despite those reservations, I have absolutely no regrets about making the switch and recommending the service.
Have questions about ConvertKit and my experience with it? Leave a comment below, happy to help however I can.